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		<title>By: Rasputin</title>
		<link>http://www.onlinegamers.org/2008/09/its-time-for-a-political-favor/comment-page-1/#comment-9442</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasputin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mynn: Ask and ye shall receive...

http://www.onlinegamers.org/2008/09/11/third-party-voting-for-dummies/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mynn: Ask and ye shall receive&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.onlinegamers.org/2008/09/11/third-party-voting-for-dummies/" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlinegamers.org/2008/09/11/third-party-voting-for-dummies/</a></p>
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		<title>By: mynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you do a &quot;where third-party votes help&quot; for dummies list?

Start with the data on fivethirtyeight as to which states are likely to dominate red or blue, and then after listing super red or super blues, note if Barr is going to be on the ballot.

I&#039;m in a state that is 2:1 McCain, in a zipcode that donates 2:1 McCain. 

Pollster.com has me as a &quot;yellow&quot; or swing state (wouldn&#039;t that be purple?).

Do all the states count popular votes towards electoral votes equally, is there information collated somewhere where one person could say &quot;okay, this state is going this way, so if I vote red it means not much, if I vote blue it means not much, but if I vote Barr it means we&#039;re closer to the mythical 15%.

I&#039;m looking at this for my state, but a plea such as yours could be helped, I think, with access to more complete data that could help folks make that determination easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you do a &#8220;where third-party votes help&#8221; for dummies list?</p>
<p>Start with the data on fivethirtyeight as to which states are likely to dominate red or blue, and then after listing super red or super blues, note if Barr is going to be on the ballot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in a state that is 2:1 McCain, in a zipcode that donates 2:1 McCain. </p>
<p>Pollster.com has me as a &#8220;yellow&#8221; or swing state (wouldn&#8217;t that be purple?).</p>
<p>Do all the states count popular votes towards electoral votes equally, is there information collated somewhere where one person could say &#8220;okay, this state is going this way, so if I vote red it means not much, if I vote blue it means not much, but if I vote Barr it means we&#8217;re closer to the mythical 15%.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at this for my state, but a plea such as yours could be helped, I think, with access to more complete data that could help folks make that determination easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasputin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rasputin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, 3rd parties can and have succeeded on the local/congressional level. 

Thing is, it doesn&#039;t HAVE to &quot;always&quot; be that way. It&#039;s not about the final goal, it&#039;s about building the momentum to get there. There has to be a meaningful NATIONAL discourse that doesn&#039;t involve &quot;Sarah Palin&#039;s daughter&#039;s pregnant&quot; or whatever mudslinging crap&#039;s going on now.

I&#039;d be all about throwing everything behind ANY party that can get REAL change discussed on a national level. If I could help push the Greens over 15% polling or 5% popular vote, I&#039;d do it. Right now, the realistic chance is the LP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, 3rd parties can and have succeeded on the local/congressional level. </p>
<p>Thing is, it doesn&#8217;t HAVE to &#8220;always&#8221; be that way. It&#8217;s not about the final goal, it&#8217;s about building the momentum to get there. There has to be a meaningful NATIONAL discourse that doesn&#8217;t involve &#8220;Sarah Palin&#8217;s daughter&#8217;s pregnant&#8221; or whatever mudslinging crap&#8217;s going on now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be all about throwing everything behind ANY party that can get REAL change discussed on a national level. If I could help push the Greens over 15% polling or 5% popular vote, I&#8217;d do it. Right now, the realistic chance is the LP.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think a third party could win even if it was very popular. They need the electoral college votes which are controlled by the Democratic and Republican parties, and those parties aren&#039;t going to hand over their power. For better or worse, there will always be only two political parties in America that have a chance at winning the presidency.

Of course, Congressional seats are another matter. That&#039;s where 3rd parties can succeed, so that&#039;s where they should focus their efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think a third party could win even if it was very popular. They need the electoral college votes which are controlled by the Democratic and Republican parties, and those parties aren&#8217;t going to hand over their power. For better or worse, there will always be only two political parties in America that have a chance at winning the presidency.</p>
<p>Of course, Congressional seats are another matter. That&#8217;s where 3rd parties can succeed, so that&#8217;s where they should focus their efforts.</p>
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